That's just plain scary.  I'm really beginning to hate some people.

Quite amazing huh. Oddly enough, even though I work in the IT industry (server tech support), I'd never heard of these before.

Neither had the guy I worked with who has A+, Net+, AND Security+

My old host got rootkitted. Lost my whole site. Thank god I installed an automatic backup script.

Im not very computer savvy but this sounds scary and after reading some of this Im frozen with fear as to what to do to do anything about this problem or even to find out how i have it, im afraid to download any thing to even begin to fix it that may be a virus or something even crazier what is a computer dummy to do?

Well, I do know one thing -- this ain't cool! It is quickly becoming a world without end of viruses, and endless amounts of cash coming out of our wallets/purses to buy anti-virus/spyware/malware -- now ROOTKIT!!

Another thing I know, I work for Charter Communications -- Owned by one of the founding fathers of -- dare I say in horai's presence? -- MICROSOFT!! As a "benefit" of paying for our 3 or 5 Mb service, you get the "Charter High Speed Security Suite" for free. Now this suite is partnered with f-secure -- one of the sites that BF listed.

Here's where it gets interesting -- My buddy owns a DELL -- And his woman also works at Charter, and she SWEARS by this security suite!! In the past few weeks, I have run this anti-virus 5 times. Each time, it finds, ON AVERAGE, 6 viruses!!!!! They used to have MacAfee, and she used to SWEAR by that. Honestly, she doesn't know whether to shiot or go blind!! She is about as daft about computers as they come. The only thing with her is, she THINKS she knows alot about computers.

I have used MacAfee on my system for more than a year now, and have never had an y viruses make it through. I should digress, I did have it happen once -- when I activated WinXP over the internet, BEFORE I installed MacAfee!!

That in conjunction with "Zone Alarm Pro" -- I can honestly say that I have not had any problems.

Now, back to the topic at hand -- F-Secure -- I'm not so sure their products are all what they are hyped up to be!! Yes, I work at this company (Charter), They push this product (made by F-Secure) -- You will NEVER catch me pushing this product on ANY customer UNLESS, I have THOROUGHLY tested it, and re-tested it to assure its worthiness.

Like BF stated, those products may or may not work. It's up to you to decide if you want to try them out and see. Thanks BF for those links, and I will do a little research on them from my end!

No problem.

To add to the antivirus talk, I used Norton for the longest time, until my friend turned me onto avast for 2 very important reasons

1) It's FREE (completely)
2) In testing it uses a LOT less resources (don't have exact numbers, but Norton used up like 5% of my CPU at any given moment spread across it's processes....avast uses less than 1%...and the memory usage is drastically lower as well)

I would recommend avast to anyone at this point. I tried (when I reinstalled XP) to reinstall a Key Logger on my pc (I like to always know what's going on with my pc) and I couldn't even do it. Could with Norton, no problem...not with avast though.

ues, i have read it in PC MAG 2 months ago... but it is not so serious. i mean, it is a serious threat but not reallycompared to trojans and especially spyware & keyloggers...

anyway, i use F-Secure Blacklight it is a perfect choice for rootkit detection

thanks for the info BF -- found a nice (IMHO really nice) anti-spyware called "Ewido Security Suite 3.5". I did a scan with it, and it caught, literally, more than 300 spyware files that McAfee missed!!

I want to try out Avast -- any links to it BF!?